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Sofia Steinhagen's avatar

bb and rc together! thanks guys

Justice for Palestine ❤️

james's avatar

This was a very good discussion.

Sonja Wilde-de Vries's avatar

The Dutch accent bring me home and the content of course is great

DjO's avatar

Refreshingly real discussion.

karif's avatar

another on point conversation to connect with

Sonja Wilde-de Vries's avatar

Fuck the establishment democrats. They disgust me. It’s all empire.

Sofia Steinhagen's avatar

I support kshama with a monthly

donation

J C's avatar

Tell them about Kshama Sawant, guys.

Patricia's avatar

I thought it was a little naive and flippant to sayTrump is destroying us empire and he’s actually best hope for ending us hegemon, thru incompetance, insanity or whatever. He is just erasing the borders. . He has been terrifyingly successful in coalescing the transnationalist capitalist borderless class under the aegis of the american flag. And why wld the Capitalists care? Borders , flags, do not exist for them. It’s theater. Bread and circuses for the little folk.

Michael Selman's avatar

So what do people named Epstein do on TikTok?

Crapp's avatar

I admire the energy of the RC folk. They clearly know the ins and outs of politics.

But, really now, come on. We are so beyond this nation, that nation, this election, that election and Empire. It is not a geopolitical empire. It's the central admin wing of a mechanised locust of wealth extraction in the form of global system.

We're at the "figure out where the fuck we took the wrong turn and end this money driven hierarchical Capital and Psychos role playing game gone wrong" or not point.

There is nothing to fix in our society as it is currently constructed - it is functioning exactly as it is supposed to. The wealth is rising ever more rapidly, more and more are having to do without as a result. And mass slaughter for strategic gains and footholds can be permitted, even celebrated, in plain sight. This is a system we have collectively nurtured and brought into existence, that strips away anything fucking meaningful from all of our human endeavour and sticks a fucking price tag on it. I don't care what nation you're in, you either have vindaloo or korma versions of capital oppression now.

But I repeat. We've made it - you don't see fucking Blue Whales checking the fucking DOW Jones. Attempting to use any trick of the current system to fix the current system appears to me to be a total logical fallacy.

The more people buy into the "let's get elected and fix this shit" idea, the further we are from actual meaningful solutions. They may get small wins, concessions, improvements around the edges that do have an impact on individual lives, but ultimately those things do not change the trajectory of our free fall. Whoop De Doo, I can vote (with an armed robot dog patrolling by my feet), I can go home and have my shit, chemically saturated food, my crap water and breath air that contains fuck knows what and walk all day in wifi and bluetooth whose effects are pretty unknown and on and on and on - thank god I can vote with all of this happening!!

Guns won't do it, voting won't do it. Staring at ourselves long and hard in the mirror and admitting we've hit addicts' rock bottom on this shit, collectively forgiving ourselves and getting busy just removing the money and power dynamic from every aspect of our existence, including and most importantly from within our own thought patterns and personalities - well, that most likely will. And we've certainly not tried it before. Guns, new systems and all that chaos we've tried before and guess what, here we are.

Sorry, that's a bit of an angry rant, but it does rile me to see people of such obvious passion and humanity like Jen and Peter wasting their time doing whatever the fuck it is they are doing dipping their toes in that world. I say that with a lot of love and respect.

I get mad at myself too, by the way, for confusing online writing etc with actual real world action.

Patricia Bass's avatar

They didn't answer the question about the murder of the two white people and the warnings black people were giving for a long time. They deflected and went on to another point.