Coercion to self-interest notwithstanding, to support racist interests is to be a racist. Western elites continue to support such interests unambiguously. We should not be surprised that the mainspring of such ideologies is wound up by those accorded intellectual responsibility for the rest of us-- such elite nihilism has itself been an historical norm in Western dominance of non-Western others from its inception.
It reaches a point that all petitions, demonstrations, comments, do not affect the terrorist state that continue with the genocide. It is time to act. To the countries, Arab kindoms, put your money where your mouth is, pay for people to form an army of the willings and finish the crime agains humanity!
German guilt. I met a bunch of German young people in India in the mid-90's. They talked at length about how they were guilty of WW2. They were probably born in the 70's. I was quite shocked that parents would dump that on their children. And I do think German generations since WW2 have been indoctrinated, the same as the entire Israeli population (and Ashkenazi around the world) have been indoctrinated since before the Independence of Israel. The truth is that any population can be indoctrinated under the right circumstances and protecting this tendency in yourself has to be guarded against, consciously, every minute of your life. German youth have been horribly INDOCTRINATED. God. Parents! Teach your kids to THINK FOR THEMSELVES!
There’s also weapons from other western powers. And they have a dedicated arms industry. IMI, IAI and IWI, Elbit Systems and RAFAEL. To defeat an enemy, one must know your enemy. And NEVER underestimate it.
The pager attacks are war crimes. Everything about all of this situation is a war crime. It's shameful that we the American people are ignored and attacked by these criminal thugs in power here. tRump and the other criminals want resorts and investments in Gaza. All of the powerful ME unethical leaders are complicit.
Syria is/was another US project. Turkey, Israel, various gangs from all over contributed to the destruction. Shame on US/NATO misleaders.
As for the war itself, there’s a myriad of factors: where to invade, how many troops we’d need, how long will it take to squash Israel, etc… My bio becomes the real deal, i’m thinking of having supply ships loaded with humanitarian just off the coast of Gaza after my navy drives off the Israeli ships.
My Substack is all about a solution to "Zionism" (there are at least 3 definitions of that word--an honorable idea that the Jews have the right to live in their own homeland, and two very dishonorable definitions of abusing others). A bigger war is NOT a solution this time. War has been tried and tried, with increasing devastation to the real Zionite Israelite people--the slave-named "Palestinians." These people are descendants of first and second CE Century Judeans and Samaritans (Northern Israelites) who converted to Christianity. Most later converted to Islam--but there are Christians among them still. The Pagan first and second-century Romans gave the area a pagan name. They need to throw off that name. Your video mentioned Jews calling these people Amalekites. They are not Amalekites, either. They are Israelites.
You also need to recognize two missing elements in your thinking--the CHRISTIANS and Christian Zionism; and flat-out Satanists who abused the Jews to create Zionism, with the purpose to destroy ALL THREE Abrahamic religions by these wars. The Satanists, pretending to be Jews, created something called "The Scofield Study Bible," which is a Bible full of footnotes and explanations, including many intended to lead Christians to believe that "the Jews" are God's Chosen People, to be honored above all others. This idea is not merely unchristian, it is as ANTI-Christian as possible by declaring that those who deny Jesus are holier than those who accept him--true only if Christianity is not.
The Satanists, pretending to be Jews and Christians (while sodomizing and trafficking children) include Masons, which you need to research. Their plot was to abuse EU's Jews to get them to collect in "Palestine," and then get the Jews and Muslims to destroy each other. Please stop helping that. This is to be followed by Christians and atheists annihilating each other, so that wonderful S-t-n can be revealed as the true god. Ugh!
You need real solutions--something new. As Muslims, you will love what I found out about Ishmael in the Samaritan Torah. Go see my substack, beginning with
Thank you Karim, Tariq and Kavork for a truly informative and to a fair degree, portentous discussion, on the current Palestinian position and what the future might hold.
It is evident from your discussion that very little constructive support could be expected from the major international powerhouse states like China and Russia. Most distressing is your conclusion that such support could not even be expected from the geopolitically prominent Arab countries. The role that Qatar has played in the emasculation of these countries and the agenda of the Qatari rulers to unite the Arab countries under the imperial banner, is stupefying.
I just listened to your fascinating, albeit slightly depressing, discussion of the outlook for Palestinian liberation and peace in West Asia. In stark contrast, Alon Mizrahi argues in his most recent video, that the Zionist project could collapse by definitively annoying and abusing the US power that sustains them. He is taking Trump’s recent coolness to Israeli seriously and not as a distraction for something sinister to come. Any thoughts? Is it worth a discussion with ‘The Mizrahi Perspective’? I think so.
You had me at "the state of Israel needs to cease existing." AGREED!!!
Coercion to self-interest notwithstanding, to support racist interests is to be a racist. Western elites continue to support such interests unambiguously. We should not be surprised that the mainspring of such ideologies is wound up by those accorded intellectual responsibility for the rest of us-- such elite nihilism has itself been an historical norm in Western dominance of non-Western others from its inception.
It is baffling to me also. Nutty Yahoo goes to the US Congress and they genuflect, like he's a good guy. Yikes!
According to Peter Bienart the US and the West is turning away from Israel.
I won’t believe it until the weapons stop flowing.
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-era-of-unconditional-support-for-israel-is-ending
Thanks for this discussion
Excellent discussion!
It reaches a point that all petitions, demonstrations, comments, do not affect the terrorist state that continue with the genocide. It is time to act. To the countries, Arab kindoms, put your money where your mouth is, pay for people to form an army of the willings and finish the crime agains humanity!
German guilt. I met a bunch of German young people in India in the mid-90's. They talked at length about how they were guilty of WW2. They were probably born in the 70's. I was quite shocked that parents would dump that on their children. And I do think German generations since WW2 have been indoctrinated, the same as the entire Israeli population (and Ashkenazi around the world) have been indoctrinated since before the Independence of Israel. The truth is that any population can be indoctrinated under the right circumstances and protecting this tendency in yourself has to be guarded against, consciously, every minute of your life. German youth have been horribly INDOCTRINATED. God. Parents! Teach your kids to THINK FOR THEMSELVES!
If war’s the only way to stop those monsters, then i’m your Napoleon. But the IDF aren’t pushovers. And we’d need to watch out for their spies.
They aren’t pushovers with weapons from the US, sure. Without they are chickens.
There’s also weapons from other western powers. And they have a dedicated arms industry. IMI, IAI and IWI, Elbit Systems and RAFAEL. To defeat an enemy, one must know your enemy. And NEVER underestimate it.
Hand to hand they turned out chickens against the Lebanese resistance.
The pager attacks are war crimes. Everything about all of this situation is a war crime. It's shameful that we the American people are ignored and attacked by these criminal thugs in power here. tRump and the other criminals want resorts and investments in Gaza. All of the powerful ME unethical leaders are complicit.
Syria is/was another US project. Turkey, Israel, various gangs from all over contributed to the destruction. Shame on US/NATO misleaders.
That’s true. But I got a million-dollar question to ask: even if Zionism is defeated, how can we stop it from rising again?
Good question
As for the war itself, there’s a myriad of factors: where to invade, how many troops we’d need, how long will it take to squash Israel, etc… My bio becomes the real deal, i’m thinking of having supply ships loaded with humanitarian just off the coast of Gaza after my navy drives off the Israeli ships.
My Substack is all about a solution to "Zionism" (there are at least 3 definitions of that word--an honorable idea that the Jews have the right to live in their own homeland, and two very dishonorable definitions of abusing others). A bigger war is NOT a solution this time. War has been tried and tried, with increasing devastation to the real Zionite Israelite people--the slave-named "Palestinians." These people are descendants of first and second CE Century Judeans and Samaritans (Northern Israelites) who converted to Christianity. Most later converted to Islam--but there are Christians among them still. The Pagan first and second-century Romans gave the area a pagan name. They need to throw off that name. Your video mentioned Jews calling these people Amalekites. They are not Amalekites, either. They are Israelites.
You also need to recognize two missing elements in your thinking--the CHRISTIANS and Christian Zionism; and flat-out Satanists who abused the Jews to create Zionism, with the purpose to destroy ALL THREE Abrahamic religions by these wars. The Satanists, pretending to be Jews, created something called "The Scofield Study Bible," which is a Bible full of footnotes and explanations, including many intended to lead Christians to believe that "the Jews" are God's Chosen People, to be honored above all others. This idea is not merely unchristian, it is as ANTI-Christian as possible by declaring that those who deny Jesus are holier than those who accept him--true only if Christianity is not.
The Satanists, pretending to be Jews and Christians (while sodomizing and trafficking children) include Masons, which you need to research. Their plot was to abuse EU's Jews to get them to collect in "Palestine," and then get the Jews and Muslims to destroy each other. Please stop helping that. This is to be followed by Christians and atheists annihilating each other, so that wonderful S-t-n can be revealed as the true god. Ugh!
You need real solutions--something new. As Muslims, you will love what I found out about Ishmael in the Samaritan Torah. Go see my substack, beginning with
1. https://ishmaelhandinhand.substack.com/p/peace-in-israelpalestine-for-muslims
2. https://ishmaelhandinhand.substack.com/p/third-temple-solution
3. https://ishmaelhandinhand.substack.com/p/part-3-ishmaels-destiny
4. https://ishmaelhandinhand.substack.com/p/part-4-temple-from-heaven
None of us are Muslims.
I would love to hear you all discussing Emmanuel Todd’s book La Défaite de l’Occident, the key ideas of which he outlined in this recent lecture 👇
https://open.substack.com/pub/emmanueltodd/p/from-russia-with-love?r=7zux5&utm_medium=ios
Sorry the opening music is too much its not necessary we're here for the words & analysis if we want hyper we can go watch mission impossible 👍
Then go somewhere else. You think we spend all this free effort to satisfy your personal needs?
Bye
Thank you Karim, Tariq and Kavork for a truly informative and to a fair degree, portentous discussion, on the current Palestinian position and what the future might hold.
It is evident from your discussion that very little constructive support could be expected from the major international powerhouse states like China and Russia. Most distressing is your conclusion that such support could not even be expected from the geopolitically prominent Arab countries. The role that Qatar has played in the emasculation of these countries and the agenda of the Qatari rulers to unite the Arab countries under the imperial banner, is stupefying.
I just listened to your fascinating, albeit slightly depressing, discussion of the outlook for Palestinian liberation and peace in West Asia. In stark contrast, Alon Mizrahi argues in his most recent video, that the Zionist project could collapse by definitively annoying and abusing the US power that sustains them. He is taking Trump’s recent coolness to Israeli seriously and not as a distraction for something sinister to come. Any thoughts? Is it worth a discussion with ‘The Mizrahi Perspective’? I think so.
Yeah but who is going to wage it? And when?